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  Watchtower 'Experts' on Being Gay?

  by jw07 in

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  2. bible

  have you seen this article?.

  the watchtower is trying to be experts on all things having to do with human sexuality.. repressing sexual desires, gay or straight only creates more problems.. http://www.jw.org/en/bible-teachings/family/teenagers/ask/pressure-to-be-gay/.

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  Billy the Ex-Bethelite

  Vidiot: "Like sexual deviancy (manifested in child abuse), for one?"

  That might be an extreme. But the more common problems I saw included people getting married too young or too soon after not knowing the other person well. Two horny JWs rushing to a KH wedding isn't a recipe for a successful marriage. Or one horny JW marrying someone they think is sexy, but doesn't really like sex after they get married is a problem. Or telling a gay JW to repress that desire and marry a dub of the opposite sex for a "proper" sexual outlet leads to a lot of unhappiness and problems when the "same-sex attraction" isn't just a "passing phase".

  Or either a gay or straight JW living a sexless life because that would "make Jehovah happy," just leads to a lot of frustration. Nothing like walking around a Discrap Crapvention trying to hide a boner. Yeah, just try to pay attention to a boring talk about "brothers needing to reach out" when that thing in your pants is trying to reach out to that sister in the tight little dress a couple rows away. Yeah, I'd call that a problem.
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  From 1 to 10, how do you rate the value of the Internet in your awakening?

  by Hidden-Window in

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  as we all know, the internet is a real game-changer in allowing us to know the truth about the watch tower and its history.

  i always had doubts and it was the internet that presented me with the ever-growing number of individuals who were going through a similar struggle.. i give the internet a 9 in my awakening.

  what about you?.

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  Billy the Ex-Bethelite

  10+

  Facts from many sources were quicker and easier to find on the Interwebs than I ever could have looked up at the library. TONS of personal stories and experiences here on JWD/JWN and elsewhere. And support on the forums really helped me to make plans and get out. Of course the web has also immensely helped me complete my degree, which has been the exJW goldmine after getting decades of the JW shaft.

  I'm thrilled that WT is now encouraging the sheeple to use the Net. Although there is the mind-numbing JW.borg that is their official channel, they are all just a click away from finding TTATT.
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  The official requirement for salvation in the latest WT, nothing to do with Jesus......

  by EndofMysteries in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  "those with the earthly hope who supported christs brothers in the preaching work will have been judged as sheep and will be granted the privilege of living in the earthly realm of the kingdom.

  " 3/2015 study wt learn from illustration of talents par 13.. so there you have it, to get salvation you need to only obey the gb and if you obey and worship the gb, then you will be judged as a sheep.

  truly those who listen and obey, will be blessed!.

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  Billy the Ex-Bethelite

  A-Man: "As much as the Watchtower rails against other Christian religions......other Christian churches are not propagating such nonsense..."

  Indeed. WT condemns other religions for changing teachings, asking for money, and having a clergy class.

  But when WT changes teachings, asks for money, and has their elite clergy, those are all signs that they are the troo* religion(TM).

  *Coming soon. Due to lawsuits in some countries, JWs will be called the troo religion(TM) rather than the true religion.
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  Watchtower 'Experts' on Being Gay?

  by jw07 in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  have you seen this article?.

  the watchtower is trying to be experts on all things having to do with human sexuality.. repressing sexual desires, gay or straight only creates more problems.. http://www.jw.org/en/bible-teachings/family/teenagers/ask/pressure-to-be-gay/.

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  Billy the Ex-Bethelite

  The logic of the farticle is flawed. If you accept a couple of their "facts" as valid, it doesn't lead to the conclusions they present.

  "Fact: In many cases, same-sex attraction is nothing more than a passing phase."

  Fact: "Many", "same-sex attraction", and "passing phase" are all vague. How many is "many"? Does "passing phase" mean 1 hour? 60 years? Somewhere in between? Isn't opposite-sex attraction also a "passing phase"? Sometimes I can be extremely attracted to the opposite sex, but after a "big finish", I find that my attraction to the opposite-sex fades, and I'm more interested in doing other things, even watch men play sports in tight uniforms (gasp)? Does that mean that if I'm not wanting to bone a woman all the time... I'm gay?

  "The fact is, millions of heterosexuals who wish to conform to the Bible’s standards employ self-control despite any temptations they might face."

  The fact is, for decades I conformed to WT standards and resisted all sexual temptations (okay, except for masturbation and sometimes porn). What a truly miserable life that was. But then I joined the billions who cast off the shackles of religious oppression, guilt, and sexual dysfunction. Once I found my "new normal," I seem to think about sex less than I did as a JW. Oh the terrible memories of being a horned-up JW with no acceptable outlet except to go through the ackward JW courtship procedure, finally get married, and then find myself frustrated with a frigid pioneer.

  "...if they truly want to please God."

  The fact is, WT's God is never pleased. Fact: If a homosexual lives a sexless life, they will then need to "do more for Jehovah" in order to "truly please God." More is always demanded. The only formula for pleasing him, I found, was that I had to be unhappy, unfullfilled, slaving away at WT worthless works, but with a fake smile painted on the outside. What a terrible God that WT Corporation has designed, he's always angry and demanding. You're supposed to pray to him, but I found it a complete waste of time. And he didn't make just humans with sexual overdrive that has to be self-controlled, even the angels were made with a sexual desire for women. What? The angels didn't even want to have sex with each other, they ("many" of them) were made with a fetish for females of the human species. What kind of God creates, then condemns these things?

  Fact: That article raises more questions than it answers.
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  2014 Best Christmas

  by Iown Mylife in

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  dearest forum:.

  my granddaughter has been free from the wt cult since oct of '13.

  she has never had really bad grades in school but never was a straight a student - until now!!!

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  Billy the Ex-Bethelite

  "Your granddaughter has left the WT grip, is getting good grades, enjoying life with "worldly" friends, and looking forward to a nice Christmas?"

  

  "Well that makes Jehovah sad. And by 'Jehovah', I mean 'me'. This makes me sad! What next? Is she going to start wearing tight pants that the gays like to see girls wearing?" --ToMo3.
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  Should people marry? It seems that God would forbid it.

  by Gnostic Bishop in

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  2. beliefs

  should people marry?

  it seems that god would forbid it.. .

  christian scriptures say that in heaven, there is no marriage.. .

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  Billy the Ex-Bethelite

  Maybe it would be better if people that believe in God wouldn't marry or have children. WT had pretty well convinced me that my time would be better spent serving God (more specifically, his earthly organization), rather than wasting time and money on starting a family.
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  christmas

  by venting in

  1. social
  2. entertainment

  i feel bad that i was not able to let my kids enjoy christmas.

  i think it has alot to do with how you were raised.

  for some i know christmas was not that big a deal.

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  Billy the Ex-Bethelite

  Let's compare:

  A) Tell children there is a Santa, and later they find out the presents came from Mom and Dad instead.

  B) Tell the children that Armageddon is so close that they'll never graduate from school, get a job, get married, raise a family. Then when the kid is about 40 he finally realizes the WT was completely full of lies and he decides to leave it all behind and finally get a degree and career, then decide at this late date if he still wants to get married and have a family.

  I'm living option B. In retrospect, I would have chosen option A. If I decide to have my own kids, I'm going to take my chances on option A with them.
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  your favourite Christmas music , and merry Christmas to you all

  by jhine in

  1. social
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  i am perhaps a bit behind on this but i have just listened to " grandma got run over by a reindeer " sung by elmo and patsy .

  it got me to thinking about christmas songs in general ,so i thought a thread about people's favourite christmas songs would be good .

  please share your fave christmas music , a carol or something more modern .to start i will list my best carol as hark the herald and my best ever chart song as santa claus is coming to town by bruce springsteen .

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  Billy the Ex-Bethelite

  My favorite Christmas music? The list has to start with anything by Pentatonix...

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qJ_MGWio-vc

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WSUFzC6_fp8

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VAMzAIH12yc

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ifCWN5pJGIE

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sme8N2pzRx8

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pFjdfjrtf1Q
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  I am going to pioneer after the holidays!

  by snakeface in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  yes, you heard right.. as you know, most christian organizations publish and distribute little tracts with their gospel message.

  well they also make some that expose the lies of the wt, and explain how it is a cult.

  even if people are not interested in the "gospel message" in these tracts, the tracts do a good job exposing the wt as a cult.. now, those of you who are now agnostic or athiests or just non-religious, please keep reading, to understand what i plan to do.... i am expecting to receive $$ for christmas.

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  You should make up a cart with signs and set it up right next to some JWs with their trolley.
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  Should I attend Kingdom Hall meetings to discreetly "preach"?

  by CrytoJesus in

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  2. friends

  christians, should i attend kingdom hall meetings to discreetly "preach" to jws about the real jesus and the lies of the watchtower?.

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  i plan to go undercover and plant seeds into them.. .

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  Billy the Ex-Bethelite

  Depends on the congregation and people you encounter. Typically, when they find out you're "interested", you'll get lovebombed and they'll climb over each other for you to be their "study." At first they'll say how good it is that you're interested in Jesus and the Bible, but when you contradict their beliefs and don't stick to the answers in the paragraphs, they'll drop you like you're garbage.

  I'd say, "Go for it!", if you really want to spend your time on something like that. I'd be interested to hear your story. Maybe you'd actually rescue some poor JW zombie.